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Friday, July 27, 2007

Syrian Army Men, RIP

To the 15 soldiers who died because of our monumental levels of neglection and corruption [If I hear Extreme Heat again I will literally explode myself].

Rest In Peace. May God have better mercy on you than your own country men.


Update:
An explosion in a Liquid Gas Containers Warehouse in Raqqa leaves many wounded, this time due to electricity blackouts.

14 Comments:

Blogger sasa said...

Yazan,

Sometimes the most simple explanation is the correct one. How about if it was JUST the heat which caused this explosion.

It was once said that Damascenes blame everything on Israel - if there is a burst water pipe in Mezzeh, it must be Olmert's fault.

Let's not play politics with this tragic accident. Because, that's what it looks like it was.

You and I would both be disgusted - quite rightly - if the government tried to claim the deaths were the result of terrorists.

Let's just let these men rest in peace. Fight the battles worth fighting - there are a lot of things you can blame Bashar for - an explosion of munitions in 45 degree heat might not be one of them.

Sasa.

July 27, 2007 6:36 PM

 
Blogger Yazan said...

Sasa,
However you put it, there is a great deal of responsibility here, whether its how the Army would keep highly inflammable materials in such storing conditions, and so on, there must be real investigations on this. Tese are 15 people. 15 deaths, 15 families.

I am blaming the system of corruption. I am not turning it into politics, but if you wanna tell me that the death of 15 people, in an ammunition explosion in Heat levels of 45c is not a big deal, and we should just move on to the next big thing... then thats sad.

I'm sorry if my Ahmadinajad sentence suggested I am politicizing it, I will remove it... but that doesnt mean that there shouldnt be some serious investigation about this, and not one that will blame the small helpless scapegoats.

and both you and I, know there wont be.

July 27, 2007 6:42 PM

 
Blogger sasa said...

Yazan,

I am not dismissing the deaths. Far from it. It is a tragedy. But it is a tragedy which looks very much like an accident. An accident which the weather is to blame.

Maybe something could've been done, but could it have been predicted or avoided? Probably not.

Everything else is just hindsight.

Was there reckless behaviour? Just as reckless as the person who gets killed by a lightning strike.

Yes, it would be good if there was an investigation and compensation. But it's not going to happen. And that's a shame, because in the absence of one, we will all sit here saying it wasn't an accident.

S.

July 27, 2007 6:55 PM

 
Blogger Yazan said...

It is an accident.

But it is one that happened [most probably] because someone(s) have been irresponsible checking on the storing conditions and on the ammunition condition.

It is not like as in an lightning strike.

Comon Sasa, we both know that this is not a "Natural disaster" this is a human fault in every sense of the word. and the fact than no one will pay for it, is sad.

July 27, 2007 7:11 PM

 
Blogger saint said...

Complaining and stressing the investigation is the least people should ask for. Recently, we the immigrants who are following the news from Syria start seeing really disturbing trends of fires, environmental destruction, utility shortages, lack of planning and mainly no accountabilities and all are excused because Syria is under the microscope. The least we should do is to emphasize investigation and responsibility even we know the regime will not do it, and that to strengthen the public thoughts and to give confidence to voices inside the country. A lot of voices from the inside are calling for change in the way the regime is running the government and the regime keeps insisting that he is the only one allowed to call from change but if it came from others they will be prosecuted. Yazan, do not underestimate your blog power when you ask for investigation in front of the sleeping media like Syria news or governments outlets, who let people write trash talk without managing the power of populace by making real polls for example, but just to let the pressure out of people.

July 27, 2007 10:46 PM

 
Anonymous Ayman said...

I agree with Yazan. It could have been an accident but there are a lot of questions that were not answered by the government. What explains the high number of casualties? Were the soldiers sleeping when this happened? Are the dormitories close to were the ammunition is stored? What was the temperature at 4:30 am when the explosion happened? Was it extraordinarly high at that early hour of the day? If so, is it normal for ammunition to explode in high temperature or was there some storage problem like Yazan said? If yes, who is responsible?

I am not suggesting that the story is fabricated. We were simply told that heat caused an explosion that killed 15 and injured 50? How and why this happened remain a mystery! That's why we need an investigation.

July 28, 2007 2:03 AM

 
Anonymous Rime said...

Amen.

I am fully with Yazan and the others on this one, and I disagree with Sasa. Accident maybe, but since we all know the regime and the government well enough, it is only logical to suspect incompetence and carelessness as contributing factors, to say the least. Not to mention that it happened during the coolest hour of the day.

Who said we're blaming Israel for this? It's the regime which did this Sasa, not the people.

Frankly, I am not too keen on an inquiry, because we know that the true responsible people will get away with it. Remember Zeyzoun Dam? Big fat help the enquiry did us!

There needs to be accountability. If this had happened in a democratic country, heads would have been rolling already ... or at the very least the superiors responsible for this tragedy would have had the decency to resign. We all know none of that will happen either.

So the least we can do is lament the death of these poor soldiers, and keep on pointing fingers.

July 28, 2007 3:13 AM

 
Blogger DUBAI JAZZ said...

May God accept them as Martyers.

I've heard that the explosion took place inside a university student training camp. (mo3asker tadreeb jame3y)... So they are not soldiers per se, it seems that most of them are junior students...

Now the question is, why would the ammunition, artillery projectile be stored in such a negligent manner nearby a lodging facility?????? (note that the incident took place at 4:30 AM, while the victims were asleep)

Allah yer7amon...

July 28, 2007 3:51 AM

 
Blogger sasa said...

Maybe precautions could've (should've) been taken. But it is too easy to say, it's your fault, just because I don't like you.

Let me give you another story. A country was hit by floods, 6 people died. Less than a month later, more floods hit the same country, and 2 more people died.

Who was responsible? The government? Should they have put better flood defences in? Yes. Was it their fault for the deaths - the overwhelming weight of public opinion says no. (This example was Britain).

We don't see the opposition blaming the government - that would be insensitive, and would be playing politics with these people's lives.

It was an incredibly unusual event - the government could've and should've done more. But because of its rareity, it just doesn't make sense to attribute blame.

Now, if we're talking about road deaths in Syria. That's a different matter.

July 28, 2007 7:03 AM

 
Blogger Yazan said...

Sasa,
You really think we are being insensitive to the victims if [god forbids] we dared to ask, Did they really have to die?
You really think that the sensitive thing, is to forget about it as soon as possible and get back to business as usual?
I am yet to hear a single news story about it, and its been 2 days. You think by any chance it will come up again?
Is this how much 15 deaths are worth? bury them and get on with your life.

Sasa, I will not repeat the many legible questions Ayman counted, but you really think these questions are irrelevant?
How many times does it have to happen before we start doubting that Ammunition should not blow up normally at 4am [even with heat levels at 45c, ofcourse if we do believe that it is possible to have 45c at 4am!!]... before we at least honor those who died by the least effort.

Regardless of what you may think, I, do not lead a political agenda, I simply care about this country, and what I said here was not because I don't agree with, nor like, the current regime, it is because of real anger at what happened. It is because, these men are supposed to be Our Guardians of The Homeland. They deserve much more respect to their lives.

July 28, 2007 12:16 PM

 
Blogger Zeinobia said...

Dear Sasa
it is the for the sake country and the sake of the army this kind of inquiry must take place
if such event took in Isreal ,there would be an inquiry about it , fair and public , even without political reasons but for the sake of truth , for the sake of the country
Sasa do not you wonder why these inflammable substances only exploded in Syria because of the heat and similar substance in other armies like the American army in Iraq and Kuwait do not explode !!??

July 28, 2007 8:31 PM

 
Blogger Lujayn said...

I figure we shouldnt be buying ammunition that cant withstand 45 degree weather, since 45 degree temperatures are common during our summer months.

July 28, 2007 8:43 PM

 
Blogger saint said...

I wrote this science fiction story inspired by the Incident and by what Lujayn said in her comment that the government should only buy ammunitions with Explosion point below 45c.

The plot of the story is on another planet called Sasa, and this is
only an excerpt from chapter 3 out of 10 chapters.

This story is about this planet which its inhabitants have a disease called scaryfobia which make them scared from their rulers and it describes how the whole planet went extinct because of negligence.

‘First, it started with couple of honest voices asking questions, and then it grew up to more and more demands from the public to start an inquiry. The government tried to stop that but the voices of public
angers forced them to assign an inquiry panel. Government tried to cover up but one good guy (and usually it takes only one good guy) could obtain this documents from the inquiry. The document details the conversation between the panel and the sergeant who was suppose to be on the site at the time of explosion which the good guy published it on the net.

“-Why do you think the explosion happened? A- Sir, the Ammunitions were all over the place and were not inside storage rooms.
-What do you mean sergeant? A- The door was locked to the ammunitions was lock and when they brought back what was left from the exercises the left them in front of the storage outside.
-Why the storage area was locked and who keep the keys? Sir, the ammunition storage always locked and the key usually with the colonel.
-Where was the colonel at the time of explosion?. A- The colonel was in city and he was not on the campus.
-Ah aha, Again sergeant why do you think the explosion happened? A- Sir, it must be from the heat, these explosives should be inside in a cool area and not outside in the high temperature which could simmer in the heat and then explode.
-Do you think that someone could intentionally have exploded the ammunitions? A- No sir.”

It turned out that the colonel was responsible for this incident due to his negligence, but the inquiry panel could not say that since the colonel was one of them and his brother is a big guy in the army and his daughter is married to another big guy so they had to cover it up and they issued a statement that it was no one fault and only the heat was responsible for the explosion.

It turned out that it is not only the electric sector of the roads or the oil ministry are in chandelle, it was also the army and the whole planet is in bad shape and needs overhaul, but since the people has this bad disease they did bother. The ruler was so happy with things as they are they issued a statement that the heat was responsible for the explosion and from now on they will buy explosion with explosion point below 45 degrees. The government never issued the names of the victims so it can keep the public away from knowing much about the incident. They compensate the family victims a 50 pizza pound for each, however this number was less than what the brothers’ victims who lives outside the planet paid for not serving the military in the amount of 2 millions times.’
sorry Yaza for the long post!

July 29, 2007 3:43 AM

 
Blogger sasa said...

No Yazan, I certainly did not say we should just get back to life as normal and forget about these deaths.

They certainly were needless deaths, and I have argued for an investigation and for questions to be asked.

There are lessons to be learned.

My point is about the quick finger of blame. It is all to easy for us to blame the government as soon as anything happens without even caring about the poor soldiers.

To some people - and I am not suggesting you Yazan - the deaths of these soldiers are a useful nail to hammer in.

My point here is that it is a grotesque politicisation. And it also makes little sense.

There are questions to be asked. But for now, I think we should let these fifteen men rest in peace - as your title rightly suggests.

July 29, 2007 7:02 AM

 

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